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Salary Information
   Historical salary and taxable benefits from 1996 to 2024
YEAR | POSITION | SALARY | BENEFITS | RAISE | SalaryTotalRank | SalaryTotalOutOf | SalaryCategoryRank | SalaryCategoryOutOf | SalaryEmployerRank | SalaryEmployerOutOf | SalaryPositionRank | SalaryPositionOutOf | RaiseTotalRank | RaiseTotalOutOf | RaiseCategoryRank | RaiseCategoryOutOf | RaiseEmployerRank | RaiseEmployerOutOf | RaisePositionRank | RaisePositionOutOf | SalaryGenderTotalRank | SalaryGenderTotalOutOf | SalaryGenderCategoryRank | SalaryGenderCategoryOutOf | SalaryGenderEmployerRank | SalaryGenderEmployerOutOf | SalaryGenderPositionRank | SalaryGenderPositionOutOf | RaiseGenderTotalRank | RaiseGenderTotalOutOf | RaiseGenderCategoryRank | RaiseGenderCategoryOutOf | RaiseGenderEmployerRank | RaiseGenderEmployerOutOf | RaiseGenderPositionRank | RaiseGenderPositionOutOf | MostRecentPositionId | EmployerId | CategoryId | CATEGORY | POSITION_URL |
2024 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 128495.80 | 163.93 | 0.01630 | 167505 | 377666 | 11830 | 31507 | 1795 | 2692 | 2 | 6 | 187353 | 252117 | 15790 | 19370 | 1095 | 1720 | 5 | 5 | 81892 | 166846 | 7200 | 17687 | 812 | 1138 | 1 | 1 | 85490 | 115815 | 9151 | 11544 | 301 | 740 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2023 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 126430.36 | 155.70 | 0.04000 | 100486 | 300570 | 8355 | 23113 | 1805 | 2595 | 1 | 5 | 89870 | 222398 | 4897 | 15258 | 920 | 2125 | 1 | 5 | 57970 | 138237 | 5184 | 13324 | 822 | 1126 | 1 | 1 | 44589 | 106323 | 2906 | 9179 | 348 | 947 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2022 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 121563.66 | 149.21 | 0.06260 | 95212 | 266903 | 9576 | 21161 | 1821 | 2400 | 2 | 7 | 46283 | 206301 | 3946 | 16097 | 677 | 2035 | 3 | 5 | 57394 | 125191 | 5976 | 12287 | 837 | 1051 | 1 | 1 | 26315 | 100813 | 2549 | 9664 | 275 | 917 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2021 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 114402.81 | 144.84 | 0.01660 | 108749 | 244390 | 12021 | 20319 | 1876 | 2274 | 5 | 7 | 86759 | 172444 | 10596 | 16015 | 1205 | 1998 | 6 | 6 | 65105 | 117238 | 7438 | 11991 | 835 | 983 | 1 | 1 | 47778 | 91662 | 6199 | 9689 | 456 | 869 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2020 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 112539.90 | 139.18 | 0.05350 | 109995 | 205606 | 11649 | 18968 | 1849 | 2234 | 4 | 8 | 46549 | 142554 | 3767 | 14948 | 400 | 1955 | 2 | 6 | 65391 | 105147 | 7218 | 11243 | 825 | 956 | 1 | 2 | 26178 | 81615 | 2436 | 9223 | 147 | 872 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2019 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 106823.87 | 139.50 | 0.04980 | 119021 | 167098 | 13284 | 17727 | 1950 | 2196 | 5 | 8 | 34319 | 121172 | 2210 | 6591 | 1365 | 1844 | 1 | 7 | 71896 | 93688 | 8268 | 10650 | 879 | 963 | 1 | 2 | 21117 | 71080 | 1060 | 3399 | 556 | 844 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2018 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 101755.95 | 150.27 | -- | 137423 | 151375 | 15813 | 16544 | 1984 | 2032 | 7 | 7 | | | | | | | | | 81237 | 87380 | 9585 | 9997 | 903 | 921 | 2 | 2 | | | | | | | | | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
Ranking Information
   Each year's salary and raise is compared against various peer groups on the sunshine list
2024 Ranking of $128,496 in Salary
Overall
167,505 out of 377,666 /
56th percentile
Category
11,830 out of 31,507 /
62nd percentile
Employer
1,795 out of 2,692 /
33rd percentile
Position
2 out of 6 /
67th percentile
2024 Ranking of 1.6% Raise from 2023 to 2024
Overall
187,353 out of 252,117 /
26th percentile
Category
15,790 out of 19,370 /
18th percentile
Employer
1,095 out of 1,720 /
36th percentile
Position
5 out of 5 /
0th percentile
Ranking information by year
YEAR | POSITION | SALARY | BENEFITS | RAISE | SalaryTotalRank | SalaryTotalOutOf | SalaryCategoryRank | SalaryCategoryOutOf | SalaryEmployerRank | SalaryEmployerOutOf | SalaryPositionRank | SalaryPositionOutOf | RaiseTotalRank | RaiseTotalOutOf | RaiseCategoryRank | RaiseCategoryOutOf | RaiseEmployerRank | RaiseEmployerOutOf | RaisePositionRank | RaisePositionOutOf | SalaryGenderTotalRank | SalaryGenderTotalOutOf | SalaryGenderCategoryRank | SalaryGenderCategoryOutOf | SalaryGenderEmployerRank | SalaryGenderEmployerOutOf | SalaryGenderPositionRank | SalaryGenderPositionOutOf | RaiseGenderTotalRank | RaiseGenderTotalOutOf | RaiseGenderCategoryRank | RaiseGenderCategoryOutOf | RaiseGenderEmployerRank | RaiseGenderEmployerOutOf | RaiseGenderPositionRank | RaiseGenderPositionOutOf | MostRecentPositionId | EmployerId | CategoryId | CATEGORY | POSITION_URL |
2024 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 128495.80 | 163.93 | 0.01630 | 167505 | 377666 | 11830 | 31507 | 1795 | 2692 | 2 | 6 | 187353 | 252117 | 15790 | 19370 | 1095 | 1720 | 5 | 5 | 81892 | 166846 | 7200 | 17687 | 812 | 1138 | 1 | 1 | 85490 | 115815 | 9151 | 11544 | 301 | 740 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2023 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 126430.36 | 155.70 | 0.04000 | 100486 | 300570 | 8355 | 23113 | 1805 | 2595 | 1 | 5 | 89870 | 222398 | 4897 | 15258 | 920 | 2125 | 1 | 5 | 57970 | 138237 | 5184 | 13324 | 822 | 1126 | 1 | 1 | 44589 | 106323 | 2906 | 9179 | 348 | 947 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2022 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 121563.66 | 149.21 | 0.06260 | 95212 | 266903 | 9576 | 21161 | 1821 | 2400 | 2 | 7 | 46283 | 206301 | 3946 | 16097 | 677 | 2035 | 3 | 5 | 57394 | 125191 | 5976 | 12287 | 837 | 1051 | 1 | 1 | 26315 | 100813 | 2549 | 9664 | 275 | 917 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2021 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 114402.81 | 144.84 | 0.01660 | 108749 | 244390 | 12021 | 20319 | 1876 | 2274 | 5 | 7 | 86759 | 172444 | 10596 | 16015 | 1205 | 1998 | 6 | 6 | 65105 | 117238 | 7438 | 11991 | 835 | 983 | 1 | 1 | 47778 | 91662 | 6199 | 9689 | 456 | 869 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2020 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 112539.90 | 139.18 | 0.05350 | 109995 | 205606 | 11649 | 18968 | 1849 | 2234 | 4 | 8 | 46549 | 142554 | 3767 | 14948 | 400 | 1955 | 2 | 6 | 65391 | 105147 | 7218 | 11243 | 825 | 956 | 1 | 2 | 26178 | 81615 | 2436 | 9223 | 147 | 872 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2019 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 106823.87 | 139.50 | 0.04980 | 119021 | 167098 | 13284 | 17727 | 1950 | 2196 | 5 | 8 | 34319 | 121172 | 2210 | 6591 | 1365 | 1844 | 1 | 7 | 71896 | 93688 | 8268 | 10650 | 879 | 963 | 1 | 2 | 21117 | 71080 | 1060 | 3399 | 556 | 844 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2018 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 101755.95 | 150.27 | -- | 137423 | 151375 | 15813 | 16544 | 1984 | 2032 | 7 | 7 | | | | | | | | | 81237 | 87380 | 9585 | 9997 | 903 | 921 | 2 | 2 | | | | | | | | | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
YEAR | POSITION | SALARY | BENEFITS | RAISE | SalaryTotalRank | SalaryTotalOutOf | SalaryCategoryRank | SalaryCategoryOutOf | SalaryEmployerRank | SalaryEmployerOutOf | SalaryPositionRank | SalaryPositionOutOf | RaiseTotalRank | RaiseTotalOutOf | RaiseCategoryRank | RaiseCategoryOutOf | RaiseEmployerRank | RaiseEmployerOutOf | RaisePositionRank | RaisePositionOutOf | SalaryGenderTotalRank | SalaryGenderTotalOutOf | SalaryGenderCategoryRank | SalaryGenderCategoryOutOf | SalaryGenderEmployerRank | SalaryGenderEmployerOutOf | SalaryGenderPositionRank | SalaryGenderPositionOutOf | RaiseGenderTotalRank | RaiseGenderTotalOutOf | RaiseGenderCategoryRank | RaiseGenderCategoryOutOf | RaiseGenderEmployerRank | RaiseGenderEmployerOutOf | RaiseGenderPositionRank | RaiseGenderPositionOutOf | MostRecentPositionId | EmployerId | CategoryId | CATEGORY | POSITION_URL |
2024 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 128495.80 | 163.93 | 0.01630 | 167505 | 377666 | 11830 | 31507 | 1795 | 2692 | 2 | 6 | 187353 | 252117 | 15790 | 19370 | 1095 | 1720 | 5 | 5 | 81892 | 166846 | 7200 | 17687 | 812 | 1138 | 1 | 1 | 85490 | 115815 | 9151 | 11544 | 301 | 740 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2023 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 126430.36 | 155.70 | 0.04000 | 100486 | 300570 | 8355 | 23113 | 1805 | 2595 | 1 | 5 | 89870 | 222398 | 4897 | 15258 | 920 | 2125 | 1 | 5 | 57970 | 138237 | 5184 | 13324 | 822 | 1126 | 1 | 1 | 44589 | 106323 | 2906 | 9179 | 348 | 947 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2022 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 121563.66 | 149.21 | 0.06260 | 95212 | 266903 | 9576 | 21161 | 1821 | 2400 | 2 | 7 | 46283 | 206301 | 3946 | 16097 | 677 | 2035 | 3 | 5 | 57394 | 125191 | 5976 | 12287 | 837 | 1051 | 1 | 1 | 26315 | 100813 | 2549 | 9664 | 275 | 917 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2021 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 114402.81 | 144.84 | 0.01660 | 108749 | 244390 | 12021 | 20319 | 1876 | 2274 | 5 | 7 | 86759 | 172444 | 10596 | 16015 | 1205 | 1998 | 6 | 6 | 65105 | 117238 | 7438 | 11991 | 835 | 983 | 1 | 1 | 47778 | 91662 | 6199 | 9689 | 456 | 869 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2020 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 112539.90 | 139.18 | 0.05350 | 109995 | 205606 | 11649 | 18968 | 1849 | 2234 | 4 | 8 | 46549 | 142554 | 3767 | 14948 | 400 | 1955 | 2 | 6 | 65391 | 105147 | 7218 | 11243 | 825 | 956 | 1 | 2 | 26178 | 81615 | 2436 | 9223 | 147 | 872 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2019 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 106823.87 | 139.50 | 0.04980 | 119021 | 167098 | 13284 | 17727 | 1950 | 2196 | 5 | 8 | 34319 | 121172 | 2210 | 6591 | 1365 | 1844 | 1 | 7 | 71896 | 93688 | 8268 | 10650 | 879 | 963 | 1 | 2 | 21117 | 71080 | 1060 | 3399 | 556 | 844 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2018 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 101755.95 | 150.27 | -- | 137423 | 151375 | 15813 | 16544 | 1984 | 2032 | 7 | 7 | | | | | | | | | 81237 | 87380 | 9585 | 9997 | 903 | 921 | 2 | 2 | | | | | | | | | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
YEAR | POSITION | SALARY | BENEFITS | RAISE | SalaryTotalRank | SalaryTotalOutOf | SalaryCategoryRank | SalaryCategoryOutOf | SalaryEmployerRank | SalaryEmployerOutOf | SalaryPositionRank | SalaryPositionOutOf | RaiseTotalRank | RaiseTotalOutOf | RaiseCategoryRank | RaiseCategoryOutOf | RaiseEmployerRank | RaiseEmployerOutOf | RaisePositionRank | RaisePositionOutOf | SalaryGenderTotalRank | SalaryGenderTotalOutOf | SalaryGenderCategoryRank | SalaryGenderCategoryOutOf | SalaryGenderEmployerRank | SalaryGenderEmployerOutOf | SalaryGenderPositionRank | SalaryGenderPositionOutOf | RaiseGenderTotalRank | RaiseGenderTotalOutOf | RaiseGenderCategoryRank | RaiseGenderCategoryOutOf | RaiseGenderEmployerRank | RaiseGenderEmployerOutOf | RaiseGenderPositionRank | RaiseGenderPositionOutOf | MostRecentPositionId | EmployerId | CategoryId | CATEGORY | POSITION_URL |
2024 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 128495.80 | 163.93 | 0.01630 | 167505 | 377666 | 11830 | 31507 | 1795 | 2692 | 2 | 6 | 187353 | 252117 | 15790 | 19370 | 1095 | 1720 | 5 | 5 | 81892 | 166846 | 7200 | 17687 | 812 | 1138 | 1 | 1 | 85490 | 115815 | 9151 | 11544 | 301 | 740 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2023 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 126430.36 | 155.70 | 0.04000 | 100486 | 300570 | 8355 | 23113 | 1805 | 2595 | 1 | 5 | 89870 | 222398 | 4897 | 15258 | 920 | 2125 | 1 | 5 | 57970 | 138237 | 5184 | 13324 | 822 | 1126 | 1 | 1 | 44589 | 106323 | 2906 | 9179 | 348 | 947 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2022 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 121563.66 | 149.21 | 0.06260 | 95212 | 266903 | 9576 | 21161 | 1821 | 2400 | 2 | 7 | 46283 | 206301 | 3946 | 16097 | 677 | 2035 | 3 | 5 | 57394 | 125191 | 5976 | 12287 | 837 | 1051 | 1 | 1 | 26315 | 100813 | 2549 | 9664 | 275 | 917 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2021 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 114402.81 | 144.84 | 0.01660 | 108749 | 244390 | 12021 | 20319 | 1876 | 2274 | 5 | 7 | 86759 | 172444 | 10596 | 16015 | 1205 | 1998 | 6 | 6 | 65105 | 117238 | 7438 | 11991 | 835 | 983 | 1 | 1 | 47778 | 91662 | 6199 | 9689 | 456 | 869 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2020 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 112539.90 | 139.18 | 0.05350 | 109995 | 205606 | 11649 | 18968 | 1849 | 2234 | 4 | 8 | 46549 | 142554 | 3767 | 14948 | 400 | 1955 | 2 | 6 | 65391 | 105147 | 7218 | 11243 | 825 | 956 | 1 | 2 | 26178 | 81615 | 2436 | 9223 | 147 | 872 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2019 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 106823.87 | 139.50 | 0.04980 | 119021 | 167098 | 13284 | 17727 | 1950 | 2196 | 5 | 8 | 34319 | 121172 | 2210 | 6591 | 1365 | 1844 | 1 | 7 | 71896 | 93688 | 8268 | 10650 | 879 | 963 | 1 | 2 | 21117 | 71080 | 1060 | 3399 | 556 | 844 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2018 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 101755.95 | 150.27 | -- | 137423 | 151375 | 15813 | 16544 | 1984 | 2032 | 7 | 7 | | | | | | | | | 81237 | 87380 | 9585 | 9997 | 903 | 921 | 2 | 2 | | | | | | | | | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
YEAR | POSITION | SALARY | BENEFITS | RAISE | SalaryTotalRank | SalaryTotalOutOf | SalaryCategoryRank | SalaryCategoryOutOf | SalaryEmployerRank | SalaryEmployerOutOf | SalaryPositionRank | SalaryPositionOutOf | RaiseTotalRank | RaiseTotalOutOf | RaiseCategoryRank | RaiseCategoryOutOf | RaiseEmployerRank | RaiseEmployerOutOf | RaisePositionRank | RaisePositionOutOf | SalaryGenderTotalRank | SalaryGenderTotalOutOf | SalaryGenderCategoryRank | SalaryGenderCategoryOutOf | SalaryGenderEmployerRank | SalaryGenderEmployerOutOf | SalaryGenderPositionRank | SalaryGenderPositionOutOf | RaiseGenderTotalRank | RaiseGenderTotalOutOf | RaiseGenderCategoryRank | RaiseGenderCategoryOutOf | RaiseGenderEmployerRank | RaiseGenderEmployerOutOf | RaiseGenderPositionRank | RaiseGenderPositionOutOf | MostRecentPositionId | EmployerId | CategoryId | CATEGORY | POSITION_URL |
2024 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 128495.80 | 163.93 | 0.01630 | 167505 | 377666 | 11830 | 31507 | 1795 | 2692 | 2 | 6 | 187353 | 252117 | 15790 | 19370 | 1095 | 1720 | 5 | 5 | 81892 | 166846 | 7200 | 17687 | 812 | 1138 | 1 | 1 | 85490 | 115815 | 9151 | 11544 | 301 | 740 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2023 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 126430.36 | 155.70 | 0.04000 | 100486 | 300570 | 8355 | 23113 | 1805 | 2595 | 1 | 5 | 89870 | 222398 | 4897 | 15258 | 920 | 2125 | 1 | 5 | 57970 | 138237 | 5184 | 13324 | 822 | 1126 | 1 | 1 | 44589 | 106323 | 2906 | 9179 | 348 | 947 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2022 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 121563.66 | 149.21 | 0.06260 | 95212 | 266903 | 9576 | 21161 | 1821 | 2400 | 2 | 7 | 46283 | 206301 | 3946 | 16097 | 677 | 2035 | 3 | 5 | 57394 | 125191 | 5976 | 12287 | 837 | 1051 | 1 | 1 | 26315 | 100813 | 2549 | 9664 | 275 | 917 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2021 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 114402.81 | 144.84 | 0.01660 | 108749 | 244390 | 12021 | 20319 | 1876 | 2274 | 5 | 7 | 86759 | 172444 | 10596 | 16015 | 1205 | 1998 | 6 | 6 | 65105 | 117238 | 7438 | 11991 | 835 | 983 | 1 | 1 | 47778 | 91662 | 6199 | 9689 | 456 | 869 | 1 | 1 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2020 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 112539.90 | 139.18 | 0.05350 | 109995 | 205606 | 11649 | 18968 | 1849 | 2234 | 4 | 8 | 46549 | 142554 | 3767 | 14948 | 400 | 1955 | 2 | 6 | 65391 | 105147 | 7218 | 11243 | 825 | 956 | 1 | 2 | 26178 | 81615 | 2436 | 9223 | 147 | 872 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2019 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 106823.87 | 139.50 | 0.04980 | 119021 | 167098 | 13284 | 17727 | 1950 | 2196 | 5 | 8 | 34319 | 121172 | 2210 | 6591 | 1365 | 1844 | 1 | 7 | 71896 | 93688 | 8268 | 10650 | 879 | 963 | 1 | 2 | 21117 | 71080 | 1060 | 3399 | 556 | 844 | 1 | 2 | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
2018 | Manager, Guardianship Services | 101755.95 | 150.27 | -- | 137423 | 151375 | 15813 | 16544 | 1984 | 2032 | 7 | 7 | | | | | | | | | 81237 | 87380 | 9585 | 9997 | 903 | 921 | 2 | 2 | | | | | | | | | 162875 | 11678 | 32 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | manager-guardianship-services |
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